Navigating the NDIS: Finding Support Through Community

Michelle: Hi everyone, welcome to our Divergent Discussion. We’re here tonight to talk about building community, but also navigating the NDIS.

I’m Michelle, the founder of Kaboose. We’re an inclusive, safe online community for neurodivergent people to connect, learn about their brains and thrive in their own way. We’re built by neurodivergent people, for neurodivergent people.

Just a reminder that the session is being recorded, so you can watch the replay afterwards. If you have questions, please pop them into the chat. We’ll have plenty of time for questions at the end or throughout the discussion.

Joining me for this session is Tara Thompson.

Tara is the CMO and co-founder of Kindship, an early intervention enthusiast with a background in primary and early childhood education.

She’s passionate about play-based therapy and equipping families with practical tools and genuine connection.

As the mum of three children, including one with a diagnosis of cerebral palsy and autism, Tara brings lived experience to everything she shares, leading Kindship’s community and creating resources that speak to the real, everyday journey of disability parenting.

We’re in good hands. Thank you, Tara, for joining us.

Tara: Thank you for having me.

Michelle: We have plenty of questions, and some people have submitted questions ahead of time.

I’d love to hear more about Kindship, what inspired you to create it and how the idea came to life.

Tara: First of all, it is Kindship! Everybody says Kindship differently, even when I type it online sometimes.

We came up with that name because we were thinking about kindness and kinship, and we brought those two things together.

I came on as a co-founder a few years ago.

Summer is our CEO. She’s neurodivergent and also a qualified speech pathologist.

She was seeing all these beautiful children and meeting their parents and carers, and something kept occurring to her.

She was providing therapy and giving families things to work on, but she kept wondering who was looking after the parents.

Who was supporting the people who had to go home and implement all these strategies?

One day, after an appointment, she walked out into the car park and saw a parent she’d just been working with sitting in their car crying.

That really stayed with her.

She started interviewing families and parents around Australia, and a common theme emerged.

Families were isolated. They felt misunderstood. They were lacking resources and support.

Summer became determined to change that.

Kindship originally started as an app for connection, quite similar to Kaboose, but specifically for parents and carers.

People could ask questions, find other families nearby and connect with others who understood their experiences.

We also had a Facebook group, and we noticed that families were naturally gravitating towards that.

They were already using Facebook, so it was easier for them than having another app to manage.

Another thing we kept noticing was that families were struggling with the NDIS.

They needed more support to navigate it.

So we decided to introduce plan management as another layer of Kindship.

But we wanted it to be plan management with community at its heart, where the people providing the service have lived experience and genuinely understand the journey.

That’s part of the backstory.

For me personally, Summer was following my Instagram account.

When my daughter Willow was diagnosed, I started an Instagram page when she was very young.

Originally, it was a private account just to share what we were doing with family.

One day, I was doing lots of therapy and play-based activities at home and decided to share them more widely.

I started using hashtags related to cerebral palsy and therapy, and before I knew it, the account grew.

I had this wonderful community of families thanking me for sharing what we were doing.

It was never my original intention to create a community, but that’s what happened.

It also became a therapeutic outlet for me.

Summer had been following along, and she felt Kindship needed that parent perspective.

That’s how I became involved, along with a few other co-founders who had their own communities.

We’ve grown enormously since then.

As you know with a startup, you’re constantly moving in different directions.

You start working on one thing and then realise there’s another area where people really need help.

It’s constantly evolving, but it’s been an amazing journey.

Michelle: That’s a lovely story. Thank you for sharing it.

Startups are definitely like that. You start with one idea, but the needs of the people you’re serving help shape where you go next.

How would you describe the support Kindship provides parents and carers?

What makes it different from other platforms or services?

Tara: That’s actually quite difficult to explain in just one sentence!

I was at a Ready, Set, Connect event recently, and people were asking me what Kindship does.

We have the community, the plan management and some incredible technology being developed by our team.

We’re creating an AI-powered navigator called Barb.

We’re also offering free family support sessions.

So there’s a little bit of something for everyone.

When my daughter was first diagnosed, I remember going into appointments and being told to do this, go there, organise that and follow all these different recommendations.

It was incredibly overwhelming.

I often think how helpful it would have been if someone had simply said, “Start here. Join this group. These people can help you.”

That’s what I think Kindship offers.

It’s a soft landing place.

We have parents whose children have only recently received diagnoses, but we also have parents whose children are now adults.

They’ve built friendships over the years, they have valuable experience to share and they still appreciate having that community.

Our free family support sessions are available for families with children aged zero to six.

You don’t need a diagnosis, an identified developmental delay or an NDIS plan.

Maybe your preschool has raised a concern.

Maybe you think your child might need an assessment.

Maybe you’re already on the NDIS but don’t understand how it works.

Whatever the question is, families can come to us.

We have a parent peer navigator who listens to their concerns and helps put together an action plan.

Then there’s our plan management service.

Because the people working with families have lived experience, you’re speaking with someone who understands the complexities.

If you’re asking about invoices or NDIS funding, you’re not just receiving an impersonal answer.

You’re speaking with someone who genuinely understands.

There are different ways people can engage with Kindship depending on where they are in their journey.

You don’t have to use every part of the service.

Michelle: That’s wonderful.

I remember when my son was diagnosed, and that was a long time ago now.

It was before the NDIS existed.

We were navigating other funding arrangements, and I remember being completely overwhelmed by all the things we were expected to organise.

Later, when he was approaching his teenage years, we applied for the NDIS.

The whole process was overwhelming, so it’s lovely to hear there’s a place families can go for that support.

Looking back, what has been the most rewarding part of building Kindship?

Tara: For me, it’s knowing we’re making a difference.

I still have Willow’s Instagram account, although it looks a little different now because she’s ten.

When she was younger, we shared a lot about her therapies and experiences.

But as she’s grown older, I’ve become more mindful that it’s her story.

We took a bit of a break from sharing, but she’s actually encouraged me to start posting again.

She says, “Mum, we need to raise awareness!”

She’s quite a character.

With Kindship’s social media, I’m not necessarily someone who schedules everything weeks in advance.

Sometimes it’s about how I’m feeling on a particular day and what I want to share with the community.

I might write something and wonder whether it’s too much or whether people will understand what I’m trying to say.

Then someone sends a message saying, “Thank you so much. I feel so seen.”

Or they’ll say, “You’ve put into words exactly how I’ve been feeling.”

That’s incredibly rewarding.

We’ve also had wonderful feedback from our free NDIS webinars.

People tell us that we’ve explained something in a way they can finally understand.

Some have even said the NDIS could learn something from how we communicate!

To know that I get to help parents feel seen, validated and less overwhelmed as part of my job is pretty amazing.

Michelle: It really is rewarding when community members tell you they feel seen and heard.

Going back to the NDIS, from my experience it can feel incredibly overwhelming for families.

What are some of the biggest challenges you see participants and parents facing?

Tara: Right now, one of the biggest challenges is keeping up with all the changes.

There seem to be new rules and processes coming out constantly.

There are changes relating to funding periods, impairments and how funding can be used.

We’re seeing a lot of questions in our Kindship Connect group and through plan management.

Families don’t know what they can spend their funding on.

They might have a consumables budget, but they’re unsure which purchases are permitted.

People are scared of spending money on the wrong thing because the rules don’t always feel clear.

We recently ran one of our free Decoding the NDIS webinars on what you can spend your funding on.

More than 500 people tuned in.

Michelle: Wow! That’s not surprising.

I think some of our members would be very interested in watching that.

Tara: They’re all available on YouTube.

That particular webinar went for two hours, so I’ve also broken it into shorter sections.

If you have a question about technology, for example, you can watch the relevant section rather than needing to sit through the entire recording.

They’re completely free to access.

Another challenge is that families may feel they don’t have enough funding but are scared to request a review.

They’re worried that if they ask for a review, they might actually end up with less funding.

That’s something we hear quite often.

There’s also the question of evidence.

How do you put together the information you need?

What reports should you provide?

How do you explain what support is needed?

Before I became more familiar with the system, I thought I understood how to do those things.

I thought, “I can prove what we need. I’ve got the evidence.”

But there’s much more involved than I realised.

That’s why we share practical tips about what evidence to provide, what decision-makers may be looking for and how to organise information.

Otherwise, families can feel as though they’re just trying to figure it all out on their own.

So I’d say the main challenges we’re seeing are understanding funding rules, being afraid to make mistakes and knowing how to approach a plan review.

Michelle: We’ve found similar things.

It can be particularly challenging as children move into young adulthood.

Their needs change, and with the rules changing as well, it’s difficult to know what to expect.

Even knowing when a review is going to happen can be confusing.

Tara: Absolutely.

Willow’s plan was approaching its end date, and I kept expecting to hear from someone about the review.

Then it rolled over.

That happened last year too.

I thought everything was fine because the plan had continued.

Then about two months later, I received a phone call saying they were doing our planning meeting that day!

I hadn’t prepared because I wasn’t expecting it.

So this year, when Willow’s plan rolled over again, I decided I’d be ready.

I’ve got all our reports prepared because I’m expecting that phone call at any moment.

It can be very unpredictable.

Michelle: It certainly seems inconsistent.

We also get a lot of questions from people who are just beginning their NDIS journey.

What should people look out for when they’re applying, and how should they approach getting started?

Tara: I should say first that I’m not the NDIS guru on the Kindship team.

I can speak from my own experience and what I’ve learned from other families.

One of the biggest things I notice is that parents feel as though they should already know what to do.

But they shouldn’t.

It’s a confusing system.

Willow was among the earlier children to transition to the NDIS.

We were receiving Better Start funding beforehand.

It’s been around ten years, and I still sometimes find myself wondering what I’m supposed to do.

The system changes regularly, and it can feel incredibly complicated.

My advice is to give yourself some grace.

You aren’t expected to automatically understand everything.

Talk to other people who have been through the process.

In our Kindship Connect group, families ask questions about reviews, carer statements and different parts of the NDIS.

Other parents share what they’ve learned.

That advice can feel much easier to understand because it’s coming from people with lived experience rather than being presented in complicated NDIS terminology.

I also wish we’d used plan management earlier.

Particularly with all the changes, I think having that extra support can be helpful.

A support coordinator can also be valuable, although it isn’t always easy to get funding for one.

I’d encourage people to attend webinars, read resources and connect with others.

We’ve run webinars on topics including described supports, funding periods, what participants can buy and how to find a support worker.

We create slides, share PDFs and provide links to the resources we discuss.

Everything is free.

There’s no obligation to sign up for plan management.

We’re parents ourselves, and we want families to have access to useful information.

I host the webinars with members of our team, including Hayley, who’s a support coordinator, and our COO.

We work through the information together and answer questions.

The following week, we also hold a casual Q&A over Google Meet.

If somebody didn’t understand part of the webinar, they can come back and ask about it.

It’s a very real conversation.

Sometimes someone will say something complicated, and I’ll ask them to explain what they mean because I don’t understand it either!

That makes it relatable.

We’ve received really positive feedback, so we’ve also put together a resource sheet with links to the recordings and supporting materials.

I’m happy to share that with Kaboose.

Michelle: That would be wonderful. We’d love to make those resources available to our audience.

Are the webinars just for parents, or can young adults and adults who are applying for themselves join too?

Tara: Absolutely, young adults and adults can join.

We started out primarily supporting parents, so much of our work has been focused on children.

But we also have adult participants using our plan management service.

A lot of adults have been joining the webinars because they’re navigating their own NDIS plans.

We also have therapists and other providers joining because they’re trying to keep up with the changes too.

Even professionals working within the disability sector can find the system confusing.

So I encourage everyone to get the help and information they need.

Michelle: That’s great.

One of our young adult community members asked what kinds of supports might benefit them through the NDIS.

I know that’s a difficult question because everyone’s circumstances and needs are different.

Do you have a broad sense of what might be helpful for young adults?

Tara: We have done a webinar about some of the next steps after school.

That includes support to enter the workforce and become more independent.

Support workers can play an important role.

But I should say Willow is only ten, so I haven’t personally navigated that stage of life yet.

One of our senior plan managers has daughters who are moving into adulthood, so she’d have much more direct experience to share.

People can also ask those questions in the Kindship Connect group.

There are other parents and participants who’ve already been through those transitions.

I’m probably not the best person to give very specific advice on that stage because I haven’t experienced it myself.

Michelle: That’s fair.

Over the years, we’ve used funding for different supports, acknowledging that the rules have changed over time.

We’ve had support around life skills and navigating the transition out of school.

My son Nick wasn’t able to attend school consistently towards the end, so that period was particularly challenging.

We used different supports to help him navigate everyday life.

At different times, we’ve also used physiotherapy because he has hypermobility.

We had a support coordinator, particularly when he was younger and our circumstances were more complex.

There were also supports involving devices and assistance with reading and schoolwork.

But it really is individual.

What we needed ten years ago was different from what we needed three years ago, and it’s different again now.

Tara: Absolutely.

For us, the next big step is high school.

School has been a bit hit and miss for Willow, so that’s something we’re thinking about.

But it’s difficult to plan too far ahead because things can change so much.

Even a year ago, I couldn’t imagine Willow having a support worker.

I thought it might cause more anxiety and distress than it would help.

Now we’re starting to explore having a support worker for a few hours here and there.

Things change, and I think you learn as you go.

Your child also helps guide you towards what they need next.

I’ve seen parents in our community discussing volunteer work for young adults as a gentle way to experience a workplace.

Someone might go along with a support worker and try an activity they’re interested in.

Willow would love that already.

Whenever we go somewhere, she wants to get involved and help with the work.

There are so many skills that can develop through those opportunities.

In a supportive, low-pressure environment, volunteering can be a lovely way to explore interests and gain experience.

Michelle: That’s a great idea.

Support coordinators can play an important role in helping people explore those options.

Another question we get frequently is about the difference between self-managed and plan-managed NDIS funding.

Can you explain the differences and the benefits of each?

Tara: When Kindship introduced plan management, about a year and a half ago, our family was still self-managed.

My husband handled a lot of the invoices and administration because he was already comfortable working on the computer.

I was actually quite resistant to plan management at first.

There are misconceptions that plan managers act as gatekeepers or that you’ll have less choice and control.

I believed some of those things myself.

When Kindship started offering plan management, I thought I should probably try it because I was a co-founder!

But now, hand on heart, I can’t imagine going back to self-management.

When we first switched, my husband asked, “What do we do now? Do we still need to submit the invoices?”

And I said, “No, that’s being handled.”

It took an enormous amount of administration off our plates.

We don’t have to manage all the invoicing ourselves.

And I have someone I can contact when I’m unsure about something.

If I have a funding question, I can send an email and receive information about what applies to our situation.

For me, that’s incredibly valuable.

It’s given us back time and reduced some of the stress around keeping up with the rules.

Some people really enjoy self-management.

They like handling the administration and staying across every detail of their plan.

If that works for you, self-management can be a good option.

But for people who find that administration stressful, plan management can feel like having a co-pilot on the NDIS journey.

It doesn’t mean losing the ability to make decisions about your supports.

With Kindship, we provide the financial administration along with the lived-experience support and community focus I’ve been describing.

Michelle: Do you have to approve invoices yourself?

Tara: With Kindship, I didn’t initially approve every invoice because I was using familiar providers and was comfortable with the process.

I actually started approving them through the app because I wanted to test what the experience looked like.

Now I receive an email when an invoice is ready to approve.

I can see what it’s for, click approve and that’s it.

It’s very straightforward.

Our plan management service also includes the community-focused support and access to the free NDIS webinars.

Ultimately, I think it’s personal preference.

But for us, moving away from handling all the administration has made a real difference.

Michelle: I can imagine.

If you have lots of providers, there can be a significant amount of administration.

And when you’re not sure about the rules, having someone to help you navigate them must be reassuring.

Tara: Absolutely.

We’re currently looking into some minor home modifications.

I’m not sure what funding might apply, what we can request or where to find the information.

So I ask the team, and they help explain the relevant parts of our plan.

That takes away a lot of the guesswork.

Another question we hear is whether plan management fees come out of the participant’s existing support funding.

Where plan management is included in an NDIS plan, it’s funded separately for that purpose rather than reducing the participant’s other support budgets.

People also worry that switching from self-management to plan management, or changing from one plan manager to another, will be a huge task.

And I understand that.

When you’re raising a child with disability, even one additional administrative task can feel overwhelming.

That’s why we try to make the process as simple as possible.

We provide email templates and instructions, so people aren’t left trying to figure out all the wording and details themselves.

We try to reduce as many barriers as we can.

Michelle: That sounds really helpful.

You’ve mentioned the Barb app a few times now. What is Barb?

Tara: Barb is something we’ve been developing with our technology team.

One of our co-founders, Andreas, is incredibly talented in the technology space.

We’ve got a fantastic team working on this.

Kindship has also received an NDIA grant supporting our free family support sessions, and Barb is being developed as part of how we facilitate that support.

Originally, Summer wanted to create an AI character who felt approachable and relatable.

Not something intimidating or technical.

She wanted it to feel like talking to an auntie who understands your situation and gives practical advice.

That’s how Barb came about.

We even created a character for her, and I dressed up as Barb with a wig!

We really went all out.

The easiest way for me to describe the technology is that it’s a bit like ChatGPT, but focused on the NDIS and disability parenting.

When we first tested Barb with plan management members, they could ask questions and receive responses quickly.

Because the system had relevant information about their circumstances, it could help with things such as preparing carer statements.

Barb has developed further since then.

The team has been building knowledge graphs to help the system understand different aspects of the disability parenting journey.

The aim is for Barb to have a detailed understanding of NDIS guidance, rules and relevant information.

We’re working towards making her an e-navigator who can help families find answers without spending hours searching online.

General AI tools can be useful, but you have to be careful about relying on them for something as important as NDIS funding.

We’re trying to develop something more specialised.

The idea is that Barb can understand the participant’s plan, their funding and the relevant rules so it can provide more useful guidance.

We’re also using the technology to support the free family navigation service.

It can help our peer navigators organise information and create practical next steps for families.

That also creates opportunities for parents with lived experience to work as navigators in flexible roles.

It’s about combining technology with human understanding.

Michelle: That’s amazing.

Do you see this kind of technology helping families navigate the NDIS more effectively?

Tara: Absolutely.

The goal is to take something that’s confusing and make it clearer and more empowering.

We want families to feel confident making decisions.

We want to reduce the overwhelm and help people understand the support available to them.

There are so many possibilities for how this technology could develop.

At the moment, we’re particularly focused on helping people understand what they can spend their NDIS funding on.

We know that’s one of the biggest questions families have.

That’s the first area we’re really concentrating on.

Michelle: You’ve spoken a lot about lived experience, and peer-to-peer support seems very central to Kindship.

Why do you think community connection is so powerful for parents, carers and participants?

Tara: Community is the foundation of everything we do.

As a startup, we’re working on lots of different things, but our focus has always been community first.

Then we ask the community what they need.

Do they need connection and meetups?

Do they need help navigating the NDIS?

Do they need particular resources or support?

That’s what helps guide the direction of Kindship.

For me personally, community has had a huge impact on Willow’s life.

When Willow was about one, I started seeing other children with cerebral palsy receiving a particular operation.

I didn’t know anything about it at the time.

I began asking parents questions through Instagram.

They shared their experiences, and I learned an enormous amount from those conversations.

I brought the information to our specialist team and asked whether the procedure might be suitable for Willow.

They told us no.

At first, I accepted that because I trusted the professionals looking after her.

But I kept speaking to families and learning more over the following couple of years.

I would bring it up again during appointments, and we’d have more conversations about it.

One appointment with our paediatrician really stayed with me.

He said that I seemed to know more about the particular procedure than he did.

That surprised me because I’d been asking about it for so long.

Through the families I’d spoken with, I learned about a specialist in St Louis, Dr Parks, who had performed the operation thousands of times.

I spoke with many families who had travelled there.

Eventually, we decided to pursue an assessment overseas.

We fundraised to travel to St Louis.

Willow was accepted for the procedure, and the outcome was life-changing for her.

That’s an example of the power of connecting with people who’ve had lived experience.

I love our therapists. They play an important role in Willow’s life.

But speaking with other families gave me information and perspectives I hadn’t encountered through our existing appointments.

Community helped me discover an option and ask questions I might never have known to ask.

And the value isn’t just in finding information about major medical decisions.

It’s also about everyday support.

Our surveys show how much parents are struggling with their wellbeing, isolation and anxiety.

They need to feel understood.

That’s hard to replicate when someone hasn’t experienced a similar journey.

Michelle: That’s such a powerful story.

We see the same thing in Kaboose.

Adults from all over the world share their experiences with medication, workplace strategies, wellbeing and everyday challenges.

People talk about what’s worked, what hasn’t worked and what resources they’ve found helpful.

It makes such a difference to be able to connect with others who understand.

Tara: It really does.

My example was a big life-changing experience, but it can be the smallest things too.

When Willow was younger, she sometimes found transitions incredibly difficult.

We might be somewhere, and she wanted to leave but also struggled with the process of actually leaving.

I’d try to get her to the car, and she’d become distressed.

I didn’t understand what was happening or how to help.

Then I’d speak to another parent who’d say, “Have you tried this?”

Or they’d share a strategy that had worked for their family.

Those little suggestions could make an enormous difference to our day.

And then there are the bigger experiences.

Before Willow’s operation, she was struggling even to walk using her walker.

Our goal wasn’t necessarily independent walking. It was improving her quality of life.

By the time we left the United States, she was taking a few independent steps.

Community played a significant role in helping us explore that journey.

That’s why we provide different opportunities for connection at Kindship.

We have online communities, but we also organise in-person meetups.

People can come along, have a coffee and meet other families.

But we recognise that in-person socialising isn’t comfortable for everyone.

Some people might find the idea of attending a meetup overwhelming.

So we also host online social events where people can play games and chat.

There’s something for different needs and preferences.

Community doesn’t have to look the same for everyone.

Sometimes it means actively participating and sharing your experiences.

Sometimes it means quietly scrolling through a group and seeing that someone else understands what you’re going through.

Even that can be meaningful.

Michelle: Absolutely.

How do you see digital communities evolving over the next few years and shaping the future of disability support?

Tara: Our big goal is for Kindship to become the community people didn’t know they needed.

When your child receives a diagnosis, you don’t necessarily know that you’re going to need a whole new support network.

But once you’re connected with other families, you discover some incredible people.

We want families to feel informed, empowered, capable and supported.

Not just with the NDIS, but with school, therapies, everyday family life and self-care.

We want to take something that can feel overwhelming, especially at the beginning, and make it less frightening.

We want families to know they’re not alone.

They’re supported, and there are people they can reach out to whenever they’re ready.

We also put a lot of emphasis on parents looking after themselves.

When parents feel more confident and supported, that can have a positive impact on the whole family.

We want parents to recognise that they are experts in their own children.

And that the experience they’ve gained can be valuable to other people.

Sometimes something you’ve been through, or a simple piece of advice, can transform somebody else’s day.

That’s pretty amazing.

Our message has always been that parents should never feel alone.

Michelle: That’s beautiful.

You’ve mentioned Barb and your other initiatives.

Looking ahead, what’s next for Kindship?

How do you hope the organisation will grow?

Tara: We’d love to keep expanding our in-person meetups.

I think we have five meetups happening across Australia next week.

We want to continue growing those opportunities for connection.

We also want to keep running our free webinars and make them accessible to as many people as possible.

Our family support pathways currently focus on children aged zero to six.

But we know the need for support extends well beyond that age group.

We’d love to eventually make those services available more broadly, including for young adults and adults.

Another important part of our vision is creating employment opportunities for families.

And if we expand our support sessions for adults, we’d love adults with disability to be involved as peer navigators and facilitators.

Everyone who currently works with us has a child with disability, so we understand why flexible work matters.

When Willow started school, I thought I’d be able to return to the workforce more easily.

But that wasn’t how things worked out.

I found a job as an educator for two days a week during school hours.

Even that was difficult because appointments didn’t always fit into those hours.

There were also times when Willow couldn’t attend school or could only manage a few hours.

I realised that the arrangement wasn’t sustainable.

Then Summer contacted me about joining Kindship.

Being able to work from home with genuine flexibility changed things for me.

Our parents work flexibly from home.

We might be in a meeting, and someone needs to leave because their child needs to be picked up from school.

Everyone understands.

There’s no judgement because we’ve all experienced those situations.

Balancing employment with parenting a child with disability can be extremely difficult.

We’d love to create more opportunities for parents to work in environments where their circumstances are understood and supported.

That’s a really big dream for us.

Michelle: That’s fabulous.

We have similar aspirations at Kaboose.

We’re fortunate to work with neurodivergent volunteers, consultants and employees, and it makes such a difference when people understand one another’s experiences.

One final, slightly lighter question.

After a big day of Kindship and NDIS conversations, which I imagine can be emotionally draining, what’s your go-to way of unwinding?

When you’re supporting families going through difficult experiences, it can be quite intense.

Tara: We have our own challenges happening as well, so it can be hard and overwhelming.

We’re very conscious of making time to stop, pause and look after ourselves.

It’s important that we fill our own cups too.

Michelle: I know what you mean about the end of the day.

Sometimes it’s about choosing a television show that’s really easy to watch.

Maybe it’s something you’ve seen before or one of those home renovation shows that doesn’t require much concentration.

Sometimes the things we normally enjoy watching create too much excitement or adrenaline.

After an emotionally heavy day, you might just want something simple and comforting.

Well, thank you very much, Tara.

I don’t think we have any further questions in the chat.

I really appreciate you taking the time at the end of what’s probably been a busy day to talk with us.

I’m sure plenty of people watching the replay will find this discussion helpful, particularly those looking for information about Kindship and navigating the NDIS.

We’ll make sure to share the resources you’ve mentioned and point people towards your organisation.

Thank you for sharing your experiences and all that practical information.

And a reminder to everyone that we have more Divergent Discussions coming up.

We’ll be speaking with Ruby Susan about disability rights and with the co-founder of Understanding Zoe about neuroaffirming parenting.

You can find upcoming events and tickets through the Kaboose app or our website.

Thank you again, Tara, and thanks to everyone for joining us.